Limits of Flush Cleaning - Steven K Grimes

In response to a suggestion of taking an intact shutter to a watchmaker for ultrasonic flush cleaning:

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999
No. Some of the mechanism, after disassembly can be cleaned in the ultrasonic cleaner. Ultrasonic cleaning can, in some circumstances etch some parts and damage them. Ultrasonic cleaning is *not* a substitute for disassembly.

And look, I don't mean to belabor the point but the contaminants involved in "dip cleaning" do not come from the cleaner/solvent. There are lots and lots of solvents that don't leave any residue *on their own* The residue comes from the mechanism itself, not the solvent. And it doesn't take much residue to screw things up. Yes, I suppose that theoretically you can dilute and change the solvent enough times that the residue becomes negligible, but as a practical matter this doesn't happen.

So, in my experience, "residue free cleaners" are misleading because it causes you to hope that it will make the oils and greases *not in the solvent originally* somehow disappear. (Sort of like the time you waste trying to patch a car muffler before replacing it)
SKG


In response to a discussion about the relative merits of using lighter fluid, carbon tetrachloride or Fargo shutter cleaner as a solvent for dip or flush cleaning shutters:

From: "skgrimes" skgrimes@ma.ultranet.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.misc
Subject: Re: Unsticking a shutter.
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999

Although there are those who occasionally get lucky the method of dipping a shutter in solvent (any solvent including mysterious secret miracle solvents) does not work. All the efforts at different oils and inspections for wear in the pivots etc is an entertaining sport which will probably not repair the mechanism. What happens with solvent dip cleaning is that the contaminant schmutz/grease/whatever which was causing some part to stick is not removed but is actually thinly diluted and spread throughout the mechanism. So that a mechanism which was dirty in some parts and clean in others is now evenly dirty all over. In this specific case what happens when the lighter fluid dries out is that the remaining grease causes the shutter blades to adhere to one another and/or otherwise bind up. In halfway/amateur repairs its best to:

  1. Try just a drop or two of solvent on the star/pallet mechanism first. Then if that doesn't ----
  2. Remove the slow governor from the shutter and dip/solvent/compressed air clean just that mechanism.
  3. Taking copious notes/ digital photos and/or using a duplicate sample shutter, disassemble the shutter to clean
    the parts.

Once a shutter has been solvent dip cleaned and on top of that had its other parts filed, bent, greased and twisted to try to compensate for damage thus done it is usually no longer practical to repair, even by an experienced skilled mechanic. --
--- S.K. Grimes -- Feinmechanik ----

 

Source: http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/mf/cleanshutter.html